Poet and Critic: Bilingual Round Table Discussion and Lecture by Earle Birney at University of Alberta, 1969

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Pierre de Grandpré discusses the goal of his critique: (00:00:00)

De Grandpré discusses the creator's review: (00:01:53)

De Grandpré discusses how poetry is an essential part of civilization: (00:02:40)

De Grandpré disucsses 19th-century critics' discourse: (00:04:29)

De Grandpré discusses how criticism turns into philosophy or science: (00:07:41)

Jean-Paul Pilon comments on de Grandpré distinction between academic and everyday criticism: (00:09:47)

De Grandpré responds to Pilon in regard to his view of criticism: (00:10:17)

Pilon asks de Grandpré about the critique of poetry: (00:10:21)

De Grandpré answers Pilon about the critique of poetry: (00:10:51)

Pilon asks de Grandpré about the echo of the critique of poetry: (00:11:14)

De Grandpré asks Pilon to elaborate on his point of view: (00:11:27)

Livesay comments about the differences between Québec and the rest of the country in regard to the critique of poetry [English]: (00:11:48)

De Grandpré responds in regard to those differences between French and English critiques of poetry: (00:13:11)

De Grandpré asks D.G. Jones to elaborate on the differences between criticism of newspapers compared to others: (00:13:26)

Jones answers de Grandpré on the nature of criticism [English]: (00:13:52)

De Grandpré asks Cécile Cloutier about criticism and the critics: (00:16:20)

Cloutier answers by saying how poets want the critics to understand their work: (00:17:34)

De Grandpré asks Pilon if we should wish for an assertive critic: (00:18:16)

Pilon answewrs by saying that he expects little from critics: (00:19:05)

De Grandpré asks Livesay if she thinks the critique can be interesting for the public but not for the poet: (00:19:47)

Livesay answers on the critique's role [English]: (00:19:58)

De Grandpré comments on how the poet should ask himself about the role of the critique: (00:21:09)

Pilon responds by saying that the role of the critique is to act as an intermediary between the public and the poet: (00:21:51)

De Grandpré comments on the roles the critique plays in literature [Incomplete]: (00:23:00)

Jones responds that critical activity is useful and necessary [English]: (00:23:48)

De Grandpré asks Cloutier whether critical judgement seems less useful now: (00:27:43)

Cloutier answers that critical judgement is just as useful as the others: (00:29:13)

De Grandpré asks Cloutier if she believes in the useful role of judgement in literature: (00:29:29)

Cloutier answers that she believes judgement is allowed in the critique of literature: (00:29:34)

De Grandpré asks the speakers what their position is on the new criticism: (00:29:51)

Pilon answers that he has no opinion on the matter: (00:31:39)

De Grandpré comments that the critique can lose the esthetic value of the work: (00:32:14)

Pilon responds that he thinks we forget to read the work when it comes to the critique: (00:33:02)

De Grandpré comments on the critique of aesthetics, which can lead to the loss of sight of the work: (00:33:10)

Pilon responds that we shouldn't lose sight of the work: (00:33:26)

De Grandpré comments that criticism can come to touch on different human sciences: (00:33:58)

Jones responds on the positive side of having different points of view [English]: (00:34:42)

De Grandpré asks Jones if qualifying the poem as superior to the critique: (00:35:03)

Jones answers that the word inferior might be a better word [English]: (00:35:11)

Livesay comments on what lowers the standards of criticism [English]: (00:35:17)

Jones answers on where French Canadian criticism differs from English Canadian criticism [English]: (00:36:17)

De Grandpré asks Pilon on the limits of creator-only criticism: (00:39:26)

Pilon answers on the distinction between information criticism and academic criticism: (00:40:38)

De Grandpré responds that there should be an information criticism and an in-depth criticism: (00:41:17)

Pilon responds that academic criticism brings more to the creator: (00:41:41)

De Grandpré responds that poetic literature needs criticism: (00:42:27)

Pilon responds that he has nothing to add: (00:42:49)

De Grandpré asks Pilon if there are enough critics who focus on poetry in French Canada: (00:43:03)

Cloutier answers that there isn't enough good academic criticism in French Canadian poetry: (00:43:36)

Pilon responds in agreement with Cloutier: (00:45:00)

De Grandpré asks Livesay if there are enough critics who focus on poetry in English Canada: (00:45:44)

Livesay answers on the lack of continuity in the criticism of English Canadian poetry [English]: (00:46:16)

Jones comments on the lack of continuing criticism [English]: (00:46:59)

Livesay asks Jones about the change from written poetry to oral poetry and its effects on criticism [English]: (00:48:25)

Jones answers that he has no theory on the subject [English]: (00:48:36)

De Grandpré asks Livesay if it's possible to have a critique of oral poetry: (00:48:47)

Livesay answers if there is even a criticism of oral poetry [English]: (00:48:51)

De Grandpré comments on good criticism to good poetry: (00:49:00)

Jones comments on the crisis in criticism: (00:49:28)

De Grandpré comments on the role of the critic: (00:50:56)

Pilon responds on different time periods where there are less critics [Incomplete]: (00:51:06)

De Grandpré comments on what makes a balanced critique: (00:51:23)

Pilon comments that many critics became creators: (00:51:55)

De Grandpré responds that it wasn't the critique that brought them to be creators: (00:52:14)

Pilon comments more on critics who become creators: (00:52:32)

De Grandpré asks the public for questions on the relationship between poetry and criticism: (00:52:43)

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De Grandpré responds that criticism is an essential function of literature: (00:53:47)

Pilon mentions Le Poème pulvérisé de René Char: (00:54:19)

De Grandpré comments on how the creator's critique can be a good critique: (00:54:53)

Audience comments on the role of the critic [English]: (00:55:10)

De Grandpré responds on what the role of the critic should be: (00:57:02)

Audience comments on canadian poets not responding well to criticism [Incomplete]: (00:57:20)

Audience comments on poets dismissing criticism [English]: (00:58:21)

De Grandpré comments that a critic is also an artist: (00:59:40)

Jones recomments on the crisis in criticism [English]: (01:60:02)

Livesay comments on the steps taken to reduce the gulf in poetry [English]: (01:61:27)

Applause and closing remarks: (01:61:44)

C.H. Moore discusses the lack of models for canadian writers [English]: (01:63:55)

Earle Birney discusses the ways poets communicate [English]: (01:66:13)

Birney discusses aboriginal dancing in relation to poetry: (01:69:49)

Birney discusses how poets get together to discuss poetry: (01:72:53)

Birney discusses his skepticism on how poets influence their generation: (01:76:24)

Birney discusses the communication emerging from poetry [Incomplete]: (01:77:34)

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